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Why do Muslims think that Islam is true. Is there any factual basis


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The merits of Islam Question: There are many religions. Why do Muslims think that Islam is true. Is there any factual basis? Answer: Praise be to Allah. This is a reasonable enough question for one who has not entered Islam, but one who believes in and practices this religion already knows the blessings which are his because of this religion. There are many reasons for this, which include the following: (1) The Muslim worships One God, Who has no partner, and Who has the most beautiful names and the highest attributes. Thus the Muslim


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there is truth, see, the truth is that u know all of the moon rotations and embryos in the body, when was it discovered by human beings? In the Late 1600's and 1700's. Now this stuff was already revealed in the Quran, 100 years earlier.



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i meant to say that it was revealed in the Quran 1000 years earlier. See, you guys have to read the quran before making any judgements about it. Also, Moses separated the red sea, and drowned pharoh, with the help of God. That water was salt water, and salt preserves. Allah (God) Allah wanted to preserve the pharoh as evidence, so that others can see it. NOWWWWW WHAAAT!!!!!!




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This sounds very much like the Pharisees in the bible. So much into trivial rules, there is no time to be spiritual, and all that praying seems mostly for show, especially that unusual position. Do you have to do it in public so everyone can see that you prayed as many times as you are supposed to today? Many of your rules are good but they are common sense and have nothing to do anything spiritual it seems. How do you know if they are from Allah? What if they are of Satan imitating Allah? Deception is of Satan and is evil. Doesn't Islam allow you to deceive others if needed to save yourself? See Matthew 23.



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Re: Why do Muslims think that Islam is true. Is there any factua
man4mtns 1- If one pray to God as only to show himself to others , his praying would not be accepted by God, all deeds have to be directed only to God, and if e.g when even I prayed at my home and visitors come and usually I pray fast, but when they came I intent by my heart to make my prayer longer and very nice as only to show my visitors that iam good and relegious and devoted only to God, so for sure i will not take reward from God, All our worship must be pure and not to show . 2- muslims men adviced to pray only compulsory prayers in mosques and other sunna prayers at home as they will be alone and devoted to God. 3- Their is also night prayers which is difficult only to people whom god really choose them, and sorry to say my beloved husband was one of them. at this time , all people are sleeping and it will be directed only to God as not to show anyone. 4- also prophet mohamed (pbuh) said that All deeds are counted by their real intentions,and for each person what he intent , so whom was migrated for the sake of God and his messenger, so his his migration is for Allah and whom migrate for women to marry or for a good life , so his migration to what he intent. islam consern much of intentions as you can see 2 muslims doing the same act which consider good to others as e.g charity , may be one would be accepted from God and the other not and that refer to what he intent and what inside hearts only God almighty knows. 4- Their also one hadith as many people thinks they are good muslims and e.g reciting quran, or giving charity, or teaching others, or praying much and in the day of judjement may be they cant take much rewards and all of these deeds would be vanish if their real intention not purified for God as God only accept pure things done for him alone and not to associate other human beings with him. so at the day of judjment god would say to that person why you gave charity e.g , he replied God for your sake, but god will tell him, you are lier, you gave charity as to show and to let people say that you are generous and gentelmen and people said that, so his deeds will not be accepted and the same for praying, teaching. All our deeds small or large has to be only to satisfy God and not anybody else in the world. so all our relegion is spiritual.



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The answer is very simple . Christian and Jewish religions are distorted (you have 9 bibles and jewish Distorted the Torah ) but the muslims have only one holy book the great quran and nobody can write like it . the proof (before 1400 no one could touch it by a fault only) . give me your proof that the islam is not true and any religion we should follow and why?



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I don't think it is as simple as your answer. Even if the quran has not change one letter, that does not make it right or wrong. It just makes it unchanged. And a single author makes it less credible. In a court of law, the more witnesses you have, the better the case. If you just have one witness, there isn't much of a case. A single person can say anything. You ask for proof that Islam is not true. I ask for proof that the words of Jesus are not true. Neither of us can provide proof of spiritual issues. However we can look at evidence and testimony. I would take the testimony of the writers of the bible. Then I read what Jesus said and did, so that the disciples (and us) would believe. Jesus said he must go (die) so the spirit could help others. You say this is Muhammed. I say it is Jesus or the holy spirit. This was needed right away, not 400 years later. It could not possibly be Muhammed. You say you follow Jesus, but apparently think he was just a prophet, and you decide what to believe and not to believe, depending on what is convenient for you.



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man4mtns 1- Even in the court, if those more witnesses have different and discripancies information , all the witnesses will be invalid. If one says different than the other, so the justful judje has not to take those witnesses. If all 9 bibles are identical in everything, so they will be 100% correct, otherwise they are under questions. 2- When we believe jesus is prophet the same as mohamed (pbu them both ) so we accept his correct sayings and not denying them, but to proove that all what is written in the 9 bibles are correct for sure.



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man4mtns: what is convenient for me, I have many proofs But you have been following the doubt (yes, hes a prophet not son of god as you say) , he eat like us (hes a human). like Mohammed , Mousaa , (the god endorsed him by many miracles) like any prophet . you will say he was born and he did not have a father !!! take this question: what do you say about Adam he came to life without father and mother (why you dont say the same). in bible God described Jesus (Emanuel ) it means that Jesus is spirit of god as our Quran said.



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What is so hard to understand about a concept that GOD chose a woman (Mary) to create a baby that would have supernatural powers and would fulfill many prophesies in the old testament? To say Jesus ate food like us therefore he is a man not God, completely misses the point. Adam was not perfect, Adam fell, and of course God knew this would happen, as GOd knows all before it happens. God sent Jesus as a final prophet, a perfect human, son of man, son of God. Many people deny Jesus like the Jews, like the Muslims, like many other "religions", even many Christians that claim to be Christians in name only, because it is easier to do this than to change their ways and basically grow up and do as God/Jesus said and did. Trivial arguments about Jesus being only a man ignore what Jesus himself and his disciples said. Why do you ignore them? It seems that Muslims are so used to following to the letter many many rules, that they look at everything as a set or rules, and if there is a discrepancy, they claim it is all innacurate. The writers of the bible WERE human and they may have made a few trivial errors but that does not negate everything they said. What I see is continual deception by Muslims, giving the same trivial arguments against Jesus, ignoring the main evidence, blindly following a person who seems to be bipolar or manic depressive. Christianity has survived much longer than Islam. Many millions are Christians. It seems to make much more sense than Islam. WHy are Muslims so afraid to question Muhammed? Why always the PBUH? If you don't, what happens? Do you burn in hell? Jesus addressed this kind of behaviour of the Pharisees. It only leads you away from God.



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Islam was and is a religion of hatred nomatter how hard modern Muslims trying to convince the world otherwise. Mohammed, before he died, gave one final request and that is: "one religion" in the Middle Eastern region. After he died, Muslims invaded all corners of the world. Most nations of Africa, Middle East, Asia, and Europe came under Islamic invasion when Christians were. When Christian empires of Spain, Italy, and France fought back and drove the Muslism out of their cities and of course Jerusalem, Muslims called it "Christian attrocity." Today, Islam is the source of political turmoil and social instability though out the world: from Bosnia to Spain and from Palestine to Indonesia. To categorize Islam into Moderate and Extremist is a mere political "correctness" concept. Doesn't reflect the truth of the matter embeded in the Qu'ran; i.e. it is a duty of all Muslims to "kill the infidels." No one will convince me that Islam is a peaceful religion. Indeed, Islamic ideologies are reflected in there own societies. Nations that are under Islamic Laws: deprivation of women, drug dealings by the Islamic Taliban regime before being toppled, blessing of suicide bombings, celebrating terrorism activities worldwided, sponsoring willing young men to attack Embassies and hijack planes. . Behind the good image Muslims in this forum created is a monster!



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man4mtns& jtmoana; I will show you some of proofs about jesus (as you say hes ason of god from torah and bible): 1.the christians quote on faith that the god (Jeuses father)Thus the divinity of Christ , and the christians saying we did not named the christ by these names but god named him in torah and bible the torah: Jesus said In the words of Moses A spokesman for the jews: (( is he your father and who find you , he emerged you ))to second(6:32). response: you can see that the name of god or gods word was used in torah to god (allah) that is meaning this word did not mean Jesus . the god said to Jacobs prophet ((you are my first son ))exit(23&22:4)-and to davids prophet ((you are my beloved son))Psalm (27.26:89)and say jesus :(my father and your ))John (17:20). and we could not find in prophets book and them speech the god name Intended (theology) name, and the son name found only to creature son ,then need The name of the son (Christ) is (Alenasot) and This refutation of every thing . that the son and The Holy Spirit Qualities of God ,and Jesus theology &Alenasot name ,It transpired that the texts of books prophets Invalidate the doctrine of Christianity .the right answer (123/2). give me your proofs about islam and quran and Iam so ready



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golean, I don't think it is as easy as that to refute the entire New Testament and the words of Jesus, the disciples, etc. You have looked at a few passages and probably are not getting the true meaning. I cannot follow your logic and do not think you are correct. But Muslims often say that they must be right because of the millions that are muslims. But there are even more Christians, so that must mean Christians are right. Not good logic. We are not voting for President. We know the dangers of that approach. THere is so much in the New Testament and the words of Jesus are very powerful. It is hard for me to imagine that Jesus is just a man with a vision, or just a prophet. It is very clear that he was from GOD, perfect, posessed by God, however you want to look at it. He rose from the dead, talked with the disciples and others after the resurrection, convinced Thomas also. There are many a "doubting Thomas" today, including Muslums. As Jesus said, Blessed are those that believe without seeing. Jesus said and did many things specifically for you to believe. Islam is so much based on precise rules and regulations, and if there is so much as an I not dotted, then it is all wrong it seems. If you are legalistic with God, he will be legalistic with you. You must be perfect then according to your quran. That may get you something I suppose, but killing innocent children of God (we all are) is surely a sin of the worst kind. Leading children astray is a terrible sin also according to Jesus. I think Muslims are taught from an early age as children to hate americans, hate christians, etc. This is considered leading them astray and a sin for sure. The children are effectively brainwashed and cannot think of reading about Jesus for fear of their life, even as an adult. The writings of Paul are also very good. He persecuted Christians until he was blinded and then his eyes were opened by God, and became a believer. If Jesus was just a prophet, this would not have happened, and Paul would not have taught as he did about Jesus. There are so many in the bible that wrote, yet you say that because one wrote slightly different than another, they should ALL be IGNORED! This is simply denial and you are deceiving yourself.



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man4mtns, On a recent Channel 4 TV programme ('Undercover Mosque') they went to Birmingham Central Mosque. Some of the preachers were secretly filmed and their views on Christians, Jews etc were quite disgraceful. Also recently there was a court case running for unfair dismissal by a teacher from an Islamic School. The text books were imported from Saudi Arabia and were downright offensive and racist. The school claims to have cut of the relevant pages, but failed to explain why they had imported such offensive textbooks in the first place. I doubt very much it is true that the pages had been removed, but it merely proves the point.



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owly, There is little doubt in my mind that Islam desires the destruction of nations that are not muslim. This is Political Islam. It means destruction of all non muslims, or they pay a tax and are treated as second class citizens. And if they had their wish, we would become slaves I think. They are allowed to exist in free countries, but are really desiring to take over the countries it appears. So it appears a major confrontation will occur because the muslims are so brainwashed that they are afraid to think for themselves.



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Re: Why do Muslims think that Islam is true. Is there any factua
man4mtns, You are making a distinction which is not there. The reality is there is no difference between Islam per sa, and what you term 'Political Islam'. As David Thompson, of happy memory, has pointed out on this forum over and over again there is no difference. It is all in the Koran. The more I learn of Islam and the more I speak to Muslims the more I see he was right.



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owly, Yes Islam is political, period, you are right. It also cannot peacefully coexist with any other religion for any length of time, because that other religion will not pay the tax forever. Have you heard about the Islamic/Fascist Axis? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Emory is interesting.



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man4mtns: 1. completely misses a point (what did you mean the Jesus couldnt eat) . 2.((Adam was not perfect , Adam fell , and ofcourse god knew this world happen ,as god knows all before it happens))ok wheres your proof ? 3.you said jesus son of god (hes son of god and the god left him to the jews to crucify how that please???!!!) . 4. we are not deny Jesus (Imeaning the muslims) , if Mohammed did not come after Jesus should be faith to Jesus ,and we faith to him realy like any prophet but not as you saying hes a son of god . 5. In fact, There is no such thing as you called last religion,all religions Calls of faith in God and no partner (is that right),we could say the last prophet .



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Re: Why do Muslims think that Islam is true. Is there any factua
golean, 1. So you think because Jesus had to eat, he could not be the son of God. Is that correct? 2. Where is my proof of what? 3. Jesus died as it was prophesised that he do so. We all know that if God did not want this, then it would not happen. So God must have done this for a reason. One is that Jesus died for our sins, so that we would not have to die or give sacrifice etc. Jesus' death was also an example of how man in general is rebellious and wants to do as man wants instead of what God desires, and is distracted by worldly desires. In fact the quran is an example of man wanting to have his own religion that suits man primarily. You say it is from a spirit, but where is your proof of that? 4. Why do you say Jesus is not son of God when Jesus and his disiples say he is, and even God said so at his baptism and at the transfiguration for example, where Peter and two other disciples were present. If you do not deny Jesus, you must believe what he said. Muhammed could not contradict this logically. If he did, he would not be of God. COuld Muhammed be directed by an unclean spirit? Remember when Satan tempted Jesus? Maybe he tempted Muhammed also but Muhammed, being a man, was deceived. 5. Last prophet, not last religion. Christians do not believe God has partners. God has expressed himself is separate ways, and we are only acknowledging that. Jesus was one expression. Again, what is so hard to understand about this? God simply directed Jesus, but Jesus was still a man. God spoke to Jesus as a father and created Jesus only as God could do. If God could create the world, surely he could do this.



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man4mtns: 1.I was very clear in my last post you can read the Old Testament or the new testament to make sure . 2.In religion, there is nothing called (I thing)...true or error only. 3.I did not mention only a few of the Old Testament even new (and if you want more I will be so happy). 4.If you have any proof against my speech please write it me .



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jtmoana: Not something new comes you gave exactly what our Quraan said ,Jesus the word of god (thats right),hes a son of god like any prophets (read the old testament and you will see the truth). take this text from quraan: god said:((Christ Jesus, the son of Mary Messenger of God and his word threw it to Mary and Spirit of him )) you say that Corresponds to the Bible :that Jesus Nasot and theology Through the words (the son of mary)and theology through (his word ,spirit). our reply: That is a lie so clear Jews did not claim that the Prophet Mohammed accused Jesus of lying and mohammeds prophet told what a god said before : ((the irreligious who said that God is Christ Jesus, the son of Mary ,who estimated that prevents God if the god wants to annihilate the christ and his mother and all people)) (almaeda /17).this means The Jews have never heard that Jesus said I the son of god.



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Re: Why do Muslims think that Islam is true. Is there any factua
golean, you lost me again! don't understand a single word you said. Try and clarify your points. Futilities won't take us anywhere.



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man4mtns: Of course,I read many of books whatever muslims ,christians ,jews ,to know how build the viewpoints to each party .



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1.ok who Iam to teach you the bible no problem could you Contradicted it (please write using proofs ). 2.you said christian theology emerged later could you tell me When this (you revealed yourself)this is meaning a distortion and that what I said . 3.If you find a mistake in quraan and thats impossible show it me and I will happy to show you your lies. 4.you want another proof in new testament: the christians quoted some of text bible Which contains the words show doctrine (belief),you said : (( baptized people as father and son and the holy spirit))metta (19:28) our reply :your text Not containing anything proofs in the text even in the apparent the (son) word Have never been used in the divine books (prophets books ) in the meaning Attribute of a God ,and you did not called the (prophets knowledge) the god (his son),and you didnot called any (prophet speech) son of god , but in your speech you called worshipers (the son of god)and by this you (say a word) that Jesus didnot say it before (This means lying because you distort the words of Jesus),because Jesus did not use this word to himself and the same with a god ,no in fact and Nor in the figurative, Is there a lie to the prophets more than that ? If the son word use in the recipe of god so we can to speak that (his life son )and (his ability son) ,The allocation of the god knowledge by the son word Without life its meaning a second error is that right . I want to see your rsponse thankyou............ I will give you many proofs from quraan .



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Re: Why do Muslims think that Islam is true. Is there any factua
Golean, you should learn how to write proper English because iam sick of reading your postings, don't make sense at all! I mentioned that Christians theology emerged later simply to show the fact that the region of the ME was flooded with all kinds of religion. Christian emerged later and based on the teachings of Jesus Christ, 600 hundred years before Islam was concieved. How do we know that God the father, son, and the Holy Ghost live? The Bible mentioned in the creation account that the deities were communicating with themselves, Genesi 1-"Let 'us' make man in "our" own image." This is not a mistake, it was a the account held by Judaism for thousands of years until Jesus started to write and express himself about this and confirmed the plurality of deity. John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word was god and the word "became" flesh...." and in John 3 "For God so loved the world that he gave his begotten son..." This is the teachings of our Lord that shows the trinity, the unity of the Body. Muslims claimed that when Jesus told his disciple that he will send another comforter, he referred to a Mohammed. That is an error and an attempt to validate Mohammed, the Murderous terrorist's claims. The Holy Ghost was that comforter. When Christ ascended to heaven the Holy Ghost came to earth for the first time interacted with the children of men. In the Book of Act of the Apostles, during the day of Penticoast, this promised came through when the Holy Ghost fell on those who gathered to worship and they looked at each other as saw flames on their heard and understood each other though they spoke different languages and also spoke in "tongues". Again, you are in running out of words and you can't express it well in English. I hope that you will come to your senses and quit writing garbage here because I need a translator to understand your writings.



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Well of course Islam is true, Islam is our religion, and Muslims should all know, i know cause my greatest grandfather told his child, and he told his child and so on. until it came to me. who would lie to there family!!! that is all.



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PREVIOUS PAGE PRINTER-FRIENDLY The True Religion by by Dr. A. A. Bilal Philips (PhD. in Theology, Wales) Which is the True Religion of God? Each person is born in a circumstance which is not of his own choosing. The religion of his family or the ideology of the state is thrust upon him from the very beginning of his existence in this world. By the time he reaches his teens, he is usually fully brain-washed into believing that the beliefs of his particular society are the correct beliefs that everyone should have. However, when some people mature and are exposed to other belief-systems, they begin to question the validity of their own beliefs. The seekers of truth often reach a point of confusion upon realizing that each and every religion, sect, ideology and philosophy claims to be the one and only correct way for man. Indeed they all encourage people to good. So, which one is right? They cannot all be right since each claims all others to be wrong. Then how does the seeker of truth choose the right way? God gave us all minds and intellects to enable us to make this crucial decision. It is the most important decision in the life of a human being. Upon it depends his future. Consequently, each and every one of us must examine dispassionately the evidence presented and choose what appears to be right until further evidence arises. Like every other religion or philosophy, Islam also claims to be the one and only true way to God. In this respect it is no different from other systems. This booklet intends to provide some evidence for the validity of that claim. However, it must always be kept in mind that one can only determine the true path by putting aside emotions and prejudices, which often blind us to reality. Then, and only then, will we be able to use our God-given intelligence and make a rational and correct decision. There are several arguments which may be advanced to support Islam's claim to be the true religion of God. The following are only three of the most obvious. The first argument is based on the Divine origin of the names of the religion and the comprehensiveness of its meaning. The second deals with the unique and uncomplicated teachings concerning the relationship between God, man, and creation. The third argument derives from the fact that Islam is universally attainable by all men at all times. These are the three basic components of what logic and reason dictate necessary for a religion to be considered the true religion of God. The following pages will develop these concepts in some detail. The Religion's Name The first thing that one should know and clearly understand about Islam is what the word "Islam" itself means. The Arabic word "Islam" means the submission or surrender of one's will to the only true God, known in Arabic as "Allah". One who submits his will to God is termed in Arabic a "Muslim". The religion of Islam is not named after a person or people, nor was it decided by a later generation of man, as in the case of Christianity which was named after Jesus Christ (p), Buddhism after Gautama Buddha, Confucianism after Confucius, Marxism after Karl Marx, Judaism after the tribe of Judah, and Hinduism after the Hindus. Islam (submission to the will of God) is the religion which was given to Adam (p), the first man and the first prophet of God, and it was the religion of all the prophets sent by Allah to mankind. Further, its name was chosen by God Himself and clearly mentioned in the final scripture which He revealed to man. In the final revelation, called the Qur'an in Arabic, Allah states the following: "This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and I have chosen for you Islam as you religion." (Qur'an 5:3) "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to God), never will it be accepted of him." (Qur'an 3:85) Hence, Islam does not claim to be a new religion brought by Prophet Muhammad (p) into Arabia in the seventh century, but rather to be a re-expression in its final form of the true religion of Almighty God, Allah, as it was originally revealed to Adam (p) and subsequent prophets. At this point we might comment briefly on two other religions that claim to be the true path. Nowhere in the Bible will you find God revealing to Prophet Moses' (p) people or their descendants that their religion is called Judaism, or to the followers of Christ (p) that their religion is called Christianity. In other words, the names "Judaism" and "Christianity" had no divine origin or approval. It was not until long after his departure that the name "Christianity" was given to Jesus' (p) religion. What, then, was Jesus' (p) religion in actual fact, as distinct from its name? His religion was reflected in his teachings, which he urged his followers to accept as guiding principles in their relationship with God. In Islam, Jesus (p) is a prophet sent by Allah and his Arabic name is Eesa. Like the prophets before him, he called upon the people to surrender their will to the will of God (which is what Islam stands for). For example, in the New Testament, it is stated that Jesus (p) taught his followers to pray to God as follows: "Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your Name, may your will be done on earth as it is in heaven." (Luke 11:2; Matt. 6:9-10) This concept was emphasized by Jesus (p) in a number of his statements recorded in the Gospels. He taught, for example, that only those who submitted would inherit Paradise. Jesus (p) also pointed out that he himself submitted to the will of God. "None of those who call me 'Lord' will enter the kingdom of God, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven." (Matt. 7:21) "I cannot do anything of myself. I judge as I hear and my judgment is honest because I am not seeking my own will but the will of Him Who sent me." (John 5:30) There are many reports in the Gospels which show that Jesus (p) made it clear to his followers that he was not the one true God. For example, when speaking about the final Hour, he said: "No one knows about the Day or Hour, not even the angels in heaven, not the son, but only the Father." (Mark 13:32) Thus, Jesus (p) like the prophets before him and the one who came after him, taught the religion of Islam: submission to the will of the One true God. God and Creation Since the total submission of one's will to God represents the essence of worship, the basic message of God's divine religion, Islam, is the worship of God alone. It also requires the avoidance of worship directed to any person, place or thing other than God. Since everything other than God, the Creator of all things, is God's creation, it may be said that Islam, in essence, calls man away from worship of creation and invites him to worship only his Creator. He is the only one deserving of man's worship, because it is only by His will that prayers are answered. Accordingly, if a man prays to a tree and his prayers are answered, it is not the tree that answered his prayers but God, Who allows the circumstances prayed for to take place. One might say, "That is obvious"; however, to tree-worshipers, it might not be so. Similarly, prayers to Jesus (p), Buddha, Krishna, St. Christopher, St. Jude, or even to Muhammad (p), are not answered by them, but are answered by God. Jesus (p) did not tell his followers to worship him but to worship God, as the Qur'an states: "And behold! Allah will say: 'O Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say to men, worship me and my mother as gods besides Allah?'; He will say: 'Glory to you, I could never say what I had no right (to say)'" (Qur'an 5:116) Nor did Jesus (p) worship himself when he worshiped, but rather he worshiped God. And Jesus (p) was reported in the Gospels to have said: "It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.'" (Luke 4:8) The basic principle is contained in the opening chapter of the Qur'an, known as Surah al-Fatihah, verse 4: "You alone do we worship and from you alone do we seek help." Elsewhere in the final book of revelation, the Qur'an, God also said: "And your Lord says: 'Call on Me and I will answer your (prayer).'" (Qur'an 40:60) It is worth emphasizing that the basic message of Islam (namely, the worship of God alone) also proclaims that God and His creation are distinctly different entities. God is neither equal to His creation nor a part of it, nor is His creation equal to Him or a part of Him. This might seem obvious, but man's worship of creation, instead of the Creator, is to a large degree based on ignorance, or neglect, of this concept. It is the belief that the essence of God is everywhere in His creation or that His divine being is or was present in some parts of His creation, which has provided justification for the worship of God's creation and naming it the worship of God. However, the message of Islam, as brought by the prophets of God, is to worship only God and to avoid the worship of His creation either directly or indirectly. In the Qur'an, God clearly states: "For We assuredly sent amongst every people a prophet, with the command: Worship Me and avoid false gods." (Qur'an 16:36) When idol worshipers are questioned as to why they bow down to idols created by men, the invariable reply is that they are not actually worshiping the stone image, but God Who is present within it. They claim that the stone idol is only a focal point for God's essence and is not in itself God! One who has accepted the concept of God being present in any way within His creation will be obliged to accept this argument for idolatry. Whereas, one who understands the basic message of Islam and its implications would never agree to idolatry no matter how it is rationalized. Those who have claimed divinity for themselves down through the ages have often based their claims on the mistaken belief that God is present in man. Taking one step further, they claim that God is more present in them than the rest of us, and that other humans should therefore submit to them and worship them as God in person or as God concentrated within their persons. Similarly, those who have asserted the godhood of others after their deaths have found fertile ground among those who accept the false belief of God's presence in man. It should be abundantly clear by now that one who has grasped the basic message of Islam and its implications could never agree to worship another human being under any circumstance. God's religion, in essence, is a clear call to the worship of the Creator and the rejection of creation-worship in any form. This is the meaning of the motto of Islam: Laa ilaaha illaa Allah" (there is no god but Allah) The sincere declaration of this phrase and the acceptance of prophethood automatically brings one within the fold of Islam, and sincere belief in it guarrantees one Paradise. Thus, the final Prophet of Islam (p) is reported to have said: "Any one who says 'There is no god but Allah', and dies holding that (belief) will enter Paradise." Belief in this declaration of faith requires that one submit his/her will to God in the way taught by the prophets of God. It also requires the believer to give up the worship of false gods. The Message of False Religions There are so many sects, cults, religions, philosophies, and movements in the world, all which claim to be the right way or the only true path to God! How can one determine which one is correct or whether, in fact, all are correct? One method by which the answer can be found is to clear away the superficial differences in the teachings of the various claimants to the ultimate truth, and identify the central object of worship upon which they call, directly or indirectly. False religions all have in common one basic concept with regard to God: they either claim that all men are gods, or that specific men were God, or that nature is God, or that God is a figment of man's imagination. Thus, it may be stated that the basic message of false religion is that God may be worshiped in the form of His creation. False religions invite man to the worship of creation by calling the creation or some aspect of it God. For example, prophet Jesus (p) invited his followers to worship God, but those who claim to be Jesus' followers today call people to worship Jesus (p), claiming that he was God. Buddha was a reformer who introduced a number of humanistic principles in the religion of India. He did not claim to be God, nor did he suggest to his followers that he be an object of worship. Yet today most Buddhists who are to be found outside of India have taken him to be God and they prostrate themselves to idols made in their perception of his likeness. By using the principle of identifying the object of worship, we can easily detect false religions and the contrived nature of their origin. As God said in the Qur'an: "That which you worship besides Him are only names and you and your forefathers have invented for which Allah has sent down no authority; the command belongs only to Allah: He has command that you worship Him; that is the right religion, but most men do not understand." (Qur'an 12:40) It may be argued that all religions teach good things, so why should it matter which one we follow? The reply is that all false religions teach the greatest evil: the worship of creation. Creation-worship is the greatest sin that man can commit because it contradicts the very purpose of His creation. Man was created to worship God alone as Allah has explicitly stated in the Qur'an: "I have only created jinns and men, that they may worship Me." (Qur'an 51:56) Consequently, the worship of creation, which is the essence of idolatry, is the only unforgivable sin. One who dies in this state of idolatry has sealed his fate in the next life. This is not an option, but a revealed fact stated by God in His final revelation to man: "Verily Allah will not forgive the joining of partners with Him, but He may forgive (sins) less than that for whomsoever He wishes." (Qur'an 4:48,116) Universality of God's Religion Since the consequences of following a false religion are so grave, the true religion of God must have been universally understandable and universally attainable in the past and it must continue eternally to be understandable and attainable throughout the entire world. In other words, the true religion of God cannot be confined to any one people, place, or period of time. Nor is it logical that such a religion should impose conditions that have nothing to do with the relationship of man with God, such as baptism, or belief in man as a savior, or an intermediary. Within the central principle of Islam and its definition (the surrender of one's will to God) lie the roots of Islam's universality. Whenever man comes to the realization that God is one and distinct from His creation, and submits himself to God, he becomes a Muslim in body and spirit and is eligible for paradise. Consequently, anyone at any time in the most remote regions of the world can become Muslim, a follower of God's religion, Islam, be merely rejecting the worship of creation and turning to God alone. It should be noted, however, that in order to actually submit to God's will, one must continually choose between right and wrong. Indeed, man is endowed by God with the power not only to distinguish right from wrong but also to choose between them. These God-given powers carry with them an important responsibility, namely, that man is answerable to God for the choices he makes. It follows, then, that man should try his utmost to do good and avoid evil. These concepts are expressed in the final revelation as follows: "Verily, those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish faith, and the Christians, and the Sabians (angel-and-star worshipers) - any of these who believe in Allah and the Last Day and work righteousness shall have their reward with their Lord. They will not be overcome by fear or grief." (Qur'an 2:62) If, for whatever reason, they fail to accept the final message after it has been clearly explained to them, they will be in grave danger. The last Prophet said: "Whoever among the Christians and Jews hears of me but does not affirm his belief in what I brought and dies in that state will be among the inhabitants of Hell." (Sahih Muslim [English Translation], Vol.1 P.91 No.284) Recognition of God The question which arises here is: How can all people be expected to believe in the one true God, given their varying backgrounds, societies and cultures? For people to be held responsible for worshipping the one true God, they all need to have access to knowledge of him. The final revelation teaches that all human beings have the recognition of the one true God imprinted on their souls as a part of their very nature with which they are created. In the seventh chapter of the Qur'an (Al-A'raaf, verses 172-173),God explained that when He created Adam He caused all of Adam's descentants to come into existence and He took a pledge from them saying: "'Am I not your Lord?' To which they all replied, 'Yes, we testify to it.'" Allah then explained why He had all of mankind bear witness that He is their creator and the only true God worthy of worship. He said: "That was in case you (mankind) should say on the Day of Resurrection, 'Verily we were unaware of all this.'" (Qur'an 7:172) That is to say, we cannot claim on that Day that we had no idea that Allah was our God and that no one told us that we were supposed to worship Allah alone. Allah went on to further explain that: "It was also in case you should say, 'Certainly it was our ancestors who made partners (with Allah) and we are only their descendants; will You then destroy us for what those liars did?'" (Qur'an 7:173) Thus, every child is born with a natural belief in God and an in-born inclination to worship Him alone. This in-born belief and inclination is called in Arabic the "Fitrah". The Prophet Muhammad reported that Allah said, "I created my servants in the right religion, but devils made them go astray." The Prophet also said, "Each child is born in a state of Fitrah. Then his parents make him a Jew, Christian or a Zoroastrian." If the child were left alone, he would worship God in his own way, but all children are affected by the environment. So, just as the child submits to the physical laws which Allah has imposed on nature, in the same way his soul also submits naturally to the fact that Allah is his Lord and Creator. But, if his parents try to make him follow a different path, the child is not strong enough in the early stages of his life to resist or oppose the will of his parents. In such cases, the religion which the child follows is one of custom and upbringing, and God does not hold him to account or punish him for his religion up to a certain stage of his life. The Signs of God Throughout people's lives, from childhood until the time they die, signs of the one and only true God are shown to them in all regions of the earth and in their own souls, until it becomes clear that there is only one true God (Allah). God says in the Qur'an: "We will show them our signs in the furthest regions (of the earth) and in their souls, until it becomes clear to them that this is the truth." (Qur'an 41:53) The following is an example of God revealing by a sign to one man the error of his idol-worship. In the south-eastern region of the Amazon jungle in Brazil, South America, a primitive tribe erected a new hut to house their man-idol Skwatch, representing the supreme God of all creation. The following day a young man entered the hut to pay homage to the God, and while he was in prostration to what he had been taught was his Creator and Sustainer, a mangy old flea-ridden dog slunk into the hut. The young man looked up in time to see the dog lift his hind leg and pass urine on the idol. Outraged, the youth chased the dog out of the temple, but when his rage died down he realized that the idol could not be the Lord of the Universe. God must be elsewhere, he concluded. As strange as it may seem, the dog urinating on the idol was a sign from God for that young man. This sign contained the divine message that what he was worshiping was false. It liberated him from slavishly following his traditionally learned worship of a false god. As a result, this man was given a choice: either to seek the true God or to continue in the error of his ways. Allah mentions Prophet Abraham's quest for God as an example of how those who follow His signs will be rightly guided: "So also did We show Abraham the power and the Laws of the heavens and the earth that he might (with understanding) have certitude. When the night covered him over, he saw a star. He said: 'This is my Lord.' But when it set, he said: 'I love not those that set.' When he saw the moon rising in splendor, he said: 'This is my Lord.' But when the moon set, he said: 'Unless my Lord guide me, I shall surely be among those who go astray.' When he saw the rising sun in splendor, he said: 'This is my Lord, this is the greatest (of all).' But when the sun set, he said: 'O my people! I am indeed free from your (guilt) of giving partners to Allah. For me, I have set my face, firmly and truly, towards Him Who created the heavens and the earth, and never shall I give partners to Allah.'" (Qur'an 6:75-79) As was mentioned earlier, prophets have been sent to every nation and tribe to support man's natural belief in God and man's in-born inclination to worship Him, as well as to reinforce the divine truth in the daily signs revealed by God. Although much of these prophets' teachings became distorted, portions revealing their God-inspired messages have remained untainted and have served to guide mankind in the choice between right and wrong. The influence of God-inspired messages down through the ages can be seen in the "Ten Commandments" of Judaisn's Torah which were later adopted into Christianity's teachings, as well as in the existence of laws against murder, stealing and adultery in most societies throughout the ancient and modern world. As a result of God's signs to mankind through the ages combined with His revelation through His prophets, all mankind has been given a chance to recognize the one and only true God. Consequently, every soul will be held accountable for its belief in God and its acceptance of the true religion of God, namely Islam, which means total submission to the will of Allah. Conclusion The preceding presentation has demonstrated that the name of the religion of Islam expresses Islam's most central principle, submission to God, and that the name "Islam" was chosen not by man, but by God, according to the holy scriptures of Islam. It has also been shown that Islam alone teaches the uniqueness of God and His attributes and enjoins the worship of God alone without intermediaries. Finally, due to the divinely instilled inclination of man to worship God and the signs revealed by God throughout the ages to each individual, Islam may be achieved by all men at all times. In short, the significance of the name Islam (submission to God), is Islam's fundamental acknowledgement of the uniqueness of God and Islam's accessibility to all mankind at all times convincingly support Islam's claim that from the beginning of time in whatever language it was expressed, Islam alone has been and will be the true religion of God. In conclusion we ask Allah, the Exalted, to keep us on the right path to which He has guided us, and to bestow on us His blessings and mercy, for He is indeed the Most-Merciful. Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds, and peace and blessings be on Prophet Muhammad and all the prophets of God and their righteous followers.



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Honestly, does the why and how matter, and believers of all faiths can point out factual/historical reasons, but really it is all a matter of faith. Instead of putting out questions you seem to already know the answers too, why don't we elevate the arguement some? The powers that be (on all sides) depend on us focuses on our differences and argueing about one why one side is "true" instead of the problems all humanity shares. We only have one world, and I'm afraid we will blow each other up over true religion before we realize that all GOD wants is for us to love humanity.



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Annarchy Yes God wants us to love humanity and help each other and not to lie and everything good to humanbeings as also it will refer to us finally. Because God wants us to love humanity, so we have all a universal message, me and you and all to deliver the real message of God which will let us all love humanity and obey his rules for the benefit of not limited persons and to fulfil only their desires and forget other creations. When God order us of rules and regulation, yes may be it is not suitable for me or you specifically as e.g we are already have good intentions and dont harm our selves or others, but the other people whom created by God , has different attitutes and thinking so they need strict rules and regulation to obey and Iam not with whom critisize pop whom also I critisize him when he say about islam, but when he remind people of hell , it is ok, somepoeple by time will forget that even me sometimes, we have to remember always that good people with good deeds will go to paradize and evil one will be discussed and their will be sometime a hell for them.? Are you with me or not ? 2- faith is changing and even for muslims , may be in the morning your believing will be more than in the evening, I dont mean believing in God, but I mean the intentions to perform duties and work. e.g if you work hard and you are tired from it and your intention is to help your family so that is a sort of worshiping God, even marrying and sorry to say have sex with your wife e.g you will be rewarded as prophet mohamed once told his companioun that their will be a reward of that, and they were astonished and said how come prophet ( pbuh) as we will enjoy that and we will be rewarded even , he told them yes, if you put this enjoyment in an illegal issue or do adultry whould you be take a sin? they answer yes, so he told them , if you put it in the correct skeleton of marriage , so you will take rewards from God as obeying him. ( sorry for my translation as I dont have the original translation now with me for that narration and hadith of prophet mohamed (pbuh).



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The answer to this question is answered here by Hector http://www.armbell.com/stmuhammad/viewtopic.php?t=67&mforum=stmuhammad



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U TALK ABOUT CIVILISATION , TOLERANCE AND DEMOCRACY.THE SITE THAT U SUGGESTED HADJIGIRL REFLECTS THE HATRED YOU HABOR TOWARDS GOD AND MOHAMMED AND THE TOLERANCE U CALL FOR. The hypocrites fear lest a Soorah (chapter of the Quraan) should be revealed about them, showing them what is in their hearts. Say: (Go ahead and) mock! But certainly Allaah will bring to light all that you fear. If you ask them (about this), they declare: We were only talking idly and joking. Say: Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking? Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed And Allaah knows best. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and all his family and companions.



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Reviewing all of these comments/postings, one does ponder and asks one self what is the mind set of a modern Muslim. Personally I am an agnostic (which 99% of you probably have no idea off), and I am off the belief that their may be a God/Supreme Creator/Eternal Deity. However exercising the most fundamentally important human trait of free will makes me question the existence of God and require substantial evidence to confirm the existence of God. According to many religions including Islam, I will burn in hell for my aforementioned statement. The prospect of eternal hell does not frighten me as I would rather opt for an eternity of hell fire over blind, intolerant, hate invoked, religious obedience (which can also be referred to as Islam) for a creator who is obviously not forgiving and full of hate. Rant over, I come back to my conundrum of the mind set of a modern Muslim. Naturally to a Muslim, Islam is the only truth and everything to the contrary is naturally incorrect. Every human being is born with a clean slate, over time through the use of sight, sound children learn and these teaching influence how we develop as humans. If a human today was to declare that he was a prophet and evoke a new school of thought on achieving eternal bliss, he would be ridiculed and declared a mad man. However if in the deserts of Saudi Arabia in 600AD a man was to say he had received instructions from a supernatural messenger of the divine being (if you havent caught on I am referring to Mohammed, Angel Gabriel and Allah) he would naturally be received as the conveyer of Gods will. As a free willed, human being who has the ability to think for himself, I immediately find myself questioning the validity of Mohammeds visions. Lets break this down further, He was 40 when he received his first vision, his revelations change in opinion (apologies for dissecting Gods words) i.e. He starts of praising Jews, however ends calling on all Muslims not to trust them. Could it just be me or is this a possible man suffering from epilepsy who is actually revealing his inner most opinions on how people should live their lives?? In any case I refuse to accept the words of a man who at the age of 65 married a 6 year old girl (for whatever reason). If you in this age chose to follow Islam, then all you Muslim parents will have no problem allowing your adolescent daughters marrying a 65+ year old Muslim man (or as they are commonly referred to today pedophiles). It really bemuses me how such irrational, hate advocating, illogical, contradictory rubbish which is being passed of as teachings can be accepted by a free willed rational human being. Okay second rant over. I do not know whether it is because of inbreeding (come on you Pakistanis you know 90 % of you have had intimate relations with your first cousins YUK) or whether it is because of a desperate and pathetic desire to bathe in the paradise which is promised for conducting immoral acts but even I know you are all not that stupid! I guess I will live a decent, caring moral life and suffer in hell fire whereas you live a pathetic, obviously delusional (much like Mr. Epilepsy) life and enjoy paradise and pathetically hope that you havent wasted your entire life to achieve the recognition of a God that doesnt exist when you die. God bless you, or should I say Jihad to the infidels.



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PROVING THE EXISTENCE OF ALLAH (SWT)TO AN ATHEIST CONGRATULATING AN ATHEIST Normally, when I meet an atheist, the first thing I like to do is to congratulate him and say, " My special congratulations to you", because most of the people who believe in God are doing blind belief - he is a Christian, because his father is a Christian; he is a Hindu, because his father is a Hindu; the majority of the people in the world are blindly following the religion of their fathers. An atheist, on the other hand, even though he may belong to a religious family, uses his intellect to deny the existence of God; what ever concept or qualities of God he may have learnt in his religion may not seem to be logical to him. My Muslim brothers may question me, "Zakir, why are you congratulating an atheist?" The reason that I am congratulating an atheist is because he agrees with the first part of the Shahada i.e. the Islamic Creed, La ilaaha - meaning there is no God. So half my job is already done; now the only part left is il lallah i.e. BUT ALLAH which I shall do Insha Allah. With others (who are not atheists) I have to first remove from their minds the wrong concept of God they may have and then put the correct concept of one true God. LOGICAL CONCEPT OF GOD My first question to the atheist will be: "What is the definition of God?" For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that this is a pen, for the opposite person to say, it is not a pen, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say there is no God, he should at least know the concept of God. His concept of God would be derived from the surroundings in which he lives. The god that a large number of people worship has got human qualities - therefore he does not believe in such a god. Similarly a Muslim too does not and should not believe in such false gods. If a non-Muslim believes that Islam is a merciless religion with something to do with terrorism; a religion which does not give rights to women; a religion which contradicts science; in his limited sense that non-Muslim is correct to reject such Islam. The problem is he has a wrong picture of Islam. Even I reject such a false picture of Islam, but at the same time, it becomes my duty as a Muslim to present the correct picture of Islam to that non-Muslim i.e. Islam is a merciful religion, it gives equal rights to the women, it is not incompatible with logic, reason and science; if I present the correct facts about Islam, that non-Muslim may Inshallah accept Islam. Similarly the atheist rejects the false gods and the duty of every Muslim is to present the correct concept of God which he shall Insha Allah not refuse. (You may refer to my article, Concept of God in Islam, for more details) QURAN AND MODERN SCIENCE The methods of proving the existence of God with usage of the material provided in the Concept of God in Islam to an atheist may satisfy some but not all. Many atheists demand a scientific proof for the existence of God. I agree that today is the age of science and technology. Let us use scientific knowledge to kill two birds with one stone, i.e. to prove the existence of God and simultaneously prove that the Quran is a revelation of God. If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, " Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, the creator of that object. Some may say the producer while others may say the manufacturer. What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning, i.e. the person who has made it or created it. Dont grapple with words, whatever answer he gives, the meaning will be same, therefore accept it. SCIENTIFIC FACTS MENTIONED IN THE QURAN: for details on this subject please refer to my book, THE QURAN AND MODERN SCIENCE COMPATIBLE OR INCOMPATIBLE? THEORY OF PROBABILITY In mathematics there is a theory known as Theory of Probability. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12%. A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %. Let us apply this theory of probability to the Quran, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Quran which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct. At the time when the Quran was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Quran rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30. The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Quran rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60. Further, the Quran also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Quran rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%. The Quran speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Quran is Divine. CREATOR IS THE AUTHOR OF THE QURAN The only logical answer to the question as to who could have mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before they were discovered, is exactly the same answer initially given by the atheist or any person, to the question who will be the first person who will be able to tell the mechanism of the unknown object. It is the CREATOR, the producer, the Manufacturer of the whole universe and its contents. In the English language He is God, or more appropriate in the Arabic language, ALLAH. QURAN IS A BOOK OF SIGNS AND NOT SCIENCE Let me remind you that the Quran is not a book of Science, S-C-I-E-N-C-E but a book of Signs S-I-G-N-S i.e. a book of ayaats. The Quran contains more than 6,000 ayaats, i.e. signs, out of which more than a thousand speak about Science. I am not trying to prove that the Quran is the word of God using scientific knowledge as a yard stick because any yardstick is supposed to be more superior than what is being checked or verified. For us Muslims the Quran is the Furqan i.e. criteria to judge right from wrong and the ultimate yardstick which is more superior to scientific knowledge. But for an educated man who is an atheist, scientific knowledge is the ultimate test which he believes in. We do know that science many a times takes U turns, therefore I have restricted the examples only to scientific facts which have sufficient proof and evidence and not scientific theories based on assumptions. Using the ultimate yardstick of the atheist, I am trying to prove to him that the Quran is the word of God and it contains the scientific knowledge which is his yardstick which was discovered recently, while the Quran was revealed 1400 year ago. At the end of the discussion, we both come to the same conclusion that God though superior to science, is not incompatible with it. SCIENCE IS ELIMINATING MODELS OF GOD BUT NOT GOD Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small g that is fake god) but God (with a capital G). Surah Fussilat: "Soon We will show them our signs in the (farthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?" [Al-Quran 41:53]



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mr zawa-je 1- when you said that athesits cant answer the question of whom creat the atom which they believe the whole world was created from it , also remind me of one event as long time when I was learning english and it was a conversation class and I dont remember frankly who choose the subject , but I remember on french student was telling his opinion that the whole world was created by chance and from raw materials , and it came my turn and spontaneously I asked him in the class and many students were their from different origins and relegions , I told him ok but who creat these raw materials, even I was not thinking much of my relegion or becasue Iam muslim, it came suddenly to my mind, he didnt answer and he quit that class and never come to it again, even it was optional. I want to say that it is a logic answer and for each creation their is a creator as even the computer which we write in has its manufacturer and not all of us know its deep secrets and how to fix it. 2- Sorry and bare my way of thinking as I think, if the people whom claim that the world was a result of evolution and adapting and even the brain , so why e.g I will not remember my past memory when sorry to say if I was developed from a monkey or another animal, how come I dont have the same genes which let me at least remember what I was doing or jumbing from one tree to other or my experience, why only I remember things whe